Saturday, 7 April 2012

Norway estimates F-35 costs at $40 billion for 52 planes

and the Secretary of State for Defence tells a Canadian parliamentary committee that on November 24th, 2011.


    I want to start by saying that I heard your message that you really want to work with other countries and launch exercises in the high north. Several members of the Canadian NATO Parliamentary Association are here today, and I think you chose the right venue for your message. Their chair is even here, so the message has been delivered.

    I want to discuss the F-35 aircraft. You said your budget was realistic. What is your budget for procuring the F-35s?
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Mr. Roger Ingebrigtsen:
    It's about $10 billion U.S. That's for 51 or 52 air fighters. That's $10 billion today, but I'm sure there could be another answer in just a few months, when we know more about what's happening in the United States. I'm sure that they are going to put some of their procurement to right...not cuts in the program. It's 2,400 fighters. I think that the United States is going to procure 2,400 fighters, but they are going to procure them more slowly, and this will definitely affect the price for Norway. But the answer to your question is $10 billion U.S. for 51 fighters.
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    Is that with or without maintenance? How many years does the maintenance plan cover? Is it 20 or 30 years?
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Mr. Roger Ingebrigtsen:
    You are talking about the lifetime cost.
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RAdm Arne Røksund:
    It is included in the initial logistics support. The life cycle costs will be, I think, about—this is not public yet, so I have to be careful—$40 billion U.S. over 30 years. So that's life cycle costs over 30 years, all included.
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http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=5272974&Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=41&Ses=1#Int-4933443  Look for 0935  Ms. Christine Moore (Abitibi—Témiscamingue, NDP)

Our Canadian government tells us the cost to buy & maintain 65 of the same planes is $15 billion. The auditor-general is suggesting $25 billion. The Norwegian Secretary of State for Defense, (40 / 52 * 65), is suggesting Canadians will be spending $50 billion.

Update:
Fantino: Don't compare Norway, Canada's F-35 costs
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20111201/julian-fantino-commons-committee-f35-costs-norway-canada-111201/

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